tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post3488845540676799502..comments2023-10-31T08:48:55.890-04:00Comments on Daf Yomi DafYomi Daf-Yomi: Daf Yomi - Yevamos 4 - WHICH IS GREATER? A POSITIVE COMMANDMENT OR A NEGATIVE ONEAvromihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-13297487484345445082007-05-09T00:27:00.000-04:002007-05-09T00:27:00.000-04:00sounds like Rabbi Nissim Gaon understands it to be...sounds like Rabbi Nissim Gaon understands it to be a chok, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-47074108897972268062007-05-09T00:24:00.000-04:002007-05-09T00:24:00.000-04:00this idea is printed in rabbeinu nissim goan on th...this idea is printed in rabbeinu nissim goan on the side of maseches shabbos 132 - it is a big chiddush and follows along the lines of mitzvaso bechach, but goes further and says that even though the aseh can be fulfilled without the lav, there is still an automatic stipulation that the lav was never said when an aseh stands against it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-2277685567940554302007-05-09T00:23:00.000-04:002007-05-09T00:23:00.000-04:00In terms of why the less severe "aseh" can push of...In terms of why the less severe "aseh" can push off the more severe "lo sa'aseh", I recently saw in a manuscript of an unpublished volume on klalei hamitzvos that Rav Nissim Gaon explains that each lav is built in with the tenai that the issur does not apply b'makom mitzvah. Thus the aseh is not really being docheh the lav. The lav simply doesn't exist b'makom the aseh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-47118420284392447102007-05-09T00:19:00.000-04:002007-05-09T00:19:00.000-04:00Well, you would be getting anywhere -- only not wh...Well, you would be getting anywhere -- only not when it contradicts. Not always does performing a positive mitzva exclude obeying a negative commandment. Usually it doesn't at all and you can do both at the same time.<BR/><BR/>As for the second part, yes, the end of your original post explained that very well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-68136639835918897682007-05-09T00:17:00.000-04:002007-05-09T00:17:00.000-04:00Rabbi Irons quoted Rabbeinu Nissim Gaon (Shabbos P...Rabbi Irons quoted Rabbeinu Nissim Gaon (Shabbos Perek Rabbi Elazar D'Milah)who writes that eseih docheh lo saseih is a tenai in the lo saseih, that if there is an aseih, the aseih overrides the lo saseih.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-90752569383528401612007-05-09T00:15:00.000-04:002007-05-09T00:15:00.000-04:00Rabbi Irons did not agree with the mashal either.Rabbi Irons did not agree with the mashal either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-12512862073035909932007-05-08T23:38:00.001-04:002007-05-08T23:38:00.001-04:00Thanks for the thoughtful response. The problem wi...Thanks for the thoughtful response. The problem with that logic would be that you're not getting anywhere and that is our life mission. Also, you will not be pushed back if the positive commandment overrides the prohibition - there will be no setback for that.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-80161136483085618152007-05-08T23:38:00.000-04:002007-05-08T23:38:00.000-04:00The last part made sense to me, and answered my pr...The last part made sense to me, and answered my problem with the first part.<BR/><BR/>The first mashal, though... I'd always looked at it differently. If we stick with your example of bringing things someplace, let's say doing the positive is what brings you closer while transgressing distances you. I'd rather stay put than get bumped back... and go with the lesser punishment of failing to do the positive.<BR/>There is no better time for a mitzva than NOW.<BR/>Basmelech Blogs: Half Baked Torah ThoughtsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com