tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post8278474395434112376..comments2023-10-31T08:48:55.890-04:00Comments on Daf Yomi DafYomi Daf-Yomi: Eliyahu's Locker RoomAvromihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-76743948346897997892009-08-18T15:31:34.828-04:002009-08-18T15:31:34.828-04:00I am away from Gemora and seforim, but perhaps it ...I am away from Gemora and seforim, but perhaps it could not have been Eliyahu, for if he was going from place to place, he must have been w/o his "guf," and the saying of the halachos can only have been if he was "dressed" with his "guf."Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30932360.post-9354480379774246462009-08-18T07:18:12.455-04:002009-08-18T07:18:12.455-04:00"This applies for halachah as well; Eliyahu m..."This applies for halachah as well; Eliyahu may traverse the globe on Shabbos to go to a bris milah, even though this involves traveling beyond the permitted distance, since as an angel he is not bound by halachah."<br /><br />this is an astonishing statement. i thought of the graveyard incident, but there would seem to be a greater problem, which would appear to directly contradict this assertion. The gemara in Eruvin 43a (which I discuss <a href="http://parsha.blogspot.com/2007/03/does-eliyahu-hanavi-really-visit-every.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>) deduces something particular to this very question -- that if Eliyahu Hanavi were traveling on Shabbos, he would travel higher than 10 tefachim off the ground, and this would allow him to take care of techum shabbos. (the same would work for a jewish superman.) thus:<br /><br />"These seven rulings were said on the morning of Shabbat before Rav Chisda in the city of Sura and were repeated in the afternoon of Shabbat before Rava in Pumpedisa. Who said them? Was it not Eliyahu {who could travel this distance in so short a time, which was more than the techum, and was flying and thus travelling over 10 tefachim from the ground}? Therefore derive that there are no techumin over 10 tefachim! No! Perhaps it was Yosef the demon who said it."<br /><br />if we can say as the chasam sofer said about eliyahu hanavi, why not stick with eliyahu hanavi. why resort to yosef the shed?<br /><br />in the aforementioned post, i use this to show that chazal did not believe that eliyahu visits every seder. in terms of bris milah, it seems quite possible that chazal did not maintain this either. for otherwise, the gemara would have used this as a proof, since there are at least once two children far off who have their bris on shabbos. indeed, the idea of eliyahu at a bris first surfaces in the zohar.<br /><br />kt,<br />joshjoshwaxmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05149022516101476797noreply@blogger.com