Sunday, August 20, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Bentching After Eating the Manna

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Bentching After Eating the Manna

Rav Yosef Engel asks on the obligation for birchas hamazon after eating the manna. He asks that benthcing is only after eating one of the five grains and the manna is not a grain? The fact that it tasted like bread should not be sufficient. He answers that the Gemora Brochos which states that they bentched after eating the manna is going in accordance with the opinion in our Gemora that not only did the manna taste like bread, but it had the texture and appearance of bread as well. This would require a birchas hamazon. There are some opinions who hold that they did not bentch after eating the manna.


Anonymous said...

My take: without a doubt. For several reasons.

First, see Chullin 109b, towards the bottom: "Yalta the wife of Rav Nachman told Rav Nachman: Now, all that the All-Merciful has forbidden us, he has permitted us the like. He forbad us blood, and permitted us the liver. The blood of a menstruant {He forbad}, the blood of purity {He permitted - in a law much undone by post-Talmudic custom and the convergence of several other halachot, for a time after birth, even when a woman menstruates, she is permitted to her husband}. The fats of a beheima {He forbad}, the fats of a chaya {kosher wild animal He permitted}. The pig {He forbad}, the brain of the Shivuta...."

thus, the taste is one which is avaliable anyway in valid form. (and further, if the fish is OK, why shouldn't the manna also be an equivalent permitted way of getting that taste?)

second, during the inital conquering of Eretz Yisrael, chazir was permitted to them.

thirdly, the midrash that states that the manna couldn't taste like leeks, etc., because they were harsh-tasting. One *might* be able to derive that only these were being restricted.