Showing posts with label Gemora Bava Basra 34. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Gemora Bava Basra 34. Show all posts

Thursday, October 08, 2009

The Disputed Boat

By: Rabbi Mordechai Kornfeld

The Gemora discusses two cases in which two litigants argue over the ownership of an object (a boat) which neither one of them is holding in his possession. In the first case, one of the litigants asks the court to appropriate the object and hold it until he brings testimony of witnesses to support his claim (so that the other litigant should not seize the object in the meantime and sell it to a third party, from whom the litigant with witnesses will not be able to get it back in court). In the second case, the Gemora asks who is entitled to keep the object when neither litigant asks the court to hold it. In that case, Rav Nachman rules: “Kol d’Alim Gevar” – “whoever is stronger prevails.” The Gemora itself says that the same halachah, “Kol d’Alim Gevar” applies in the first case.

If the same halachah applies in both cases, why does the Gemora change the other details of the case? In the first case, the Gemora says that each of the litigants claims that the boat is his. In the second case, the Gemora says that each of the litigants claims that the boat was his father’s. Why does the Gemora not present the second question as a case in which each litigant claims that the object is his, in which the halachah is still “Kol d’Alim Gevar”?

Perhaps the Gemora prefers to give a case in which it is clear that neither defendant expects to find proof to support his claim of ownership, and therefore neither will request from the court to hold the object. When each one says, “The object is my father’s and I received it as an inheritance,” it implies that he does not know how his father obtained it, but just that he left it as part of his estate. If the claimant does not know how his father acquired the object, he will not to be able to prove his ownership. [Although he might be able to prove that the object was seen in the possession of his father, such proof will not suffice to resolve the case, because -- at the present moment -- the object is in the possession of neither litigant, as Tosfos writes on 33b, DH v’Iy Ta’in.]

In addition, the Gemora asks why the halachah here should differ from that in the case of “Shtei Shtaros” – “two documents,” where the halachah is either “Yachloku” – “they divide it” (or "Shuda d’Dayanei"), and the Gemora answers that “Yachloku” (or "Shuda d’Dayanei") applies only when neither litigant can bring proof for his claim. In contrast, in the case here of the disputed boat, it is possible for one of the litigants to prove that the boat belongs to him. Had each litigant said that “the object is mine,” this answer would have been obvious. The Gemora assumed, however, that when each one says that the object belongs to his father (implying that he has no knowledge about how his father obtained it), one might have thought that the halachah is “Yachloku” (or "Shuda d’Dayanei") since the case will remain unresolved. The Gemora answers that even though, at present, neither litigant expects to find proof to his claim, nevertheless he can search and perhaps find proof of his father’s ownership. Therefore, the halachah in such a case remains “Kol d’Alim Gevar.”

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The Stronger Wins Self-sacrifice Pays

By: Meoros HaDaf HaYomi

Our sugya explains that if two people argue about the ownership of a boat and each has equal proof, “the stronger wins.” According to the Rosh, this means that “he who is right is willing to endanger himself to get what is truly his.”

HaGaon Rav Natan Gestetner uses our Gemora to clarify the following topic: The Torah praises Moshe at his demise, saying: “No other prophet arose in Israel like Moshe… [known for] the strong hand… that Moshe made” (Devarim 34:10-12). Rashi comments: “for receiving the tablets with his hands.”

Why does the Torah specially praise Moshe for accepting the tablets with his hands? In his Gur Aryeh, Maharal of Prague explains, according to the Yerushalmi, that when the people worshipped the golden calf, Moshe held on to the tablets by two handbreadths, Hashem held on to two handbreadths and two handbreadths remained between them. [Each tablet was six handbreadths wide, six tall and three thick, as we learned in Bava Basra 14a; their corners were thus square and not round, as depicted by certain gentile artists.] When the people sinned, Hashem tried to seize the tablets from Moshe, but Moshe was stronger and grabbed them back and the Torah therefore praises him for his strong hand.

Rav Gestetner adds another aspect: The Torah cannot be divided piecemeal: “Hashem’s Torah is whole, restoring the soul” (Tehilim 19:8). It restores our souls only when whole, and could not be divided between Hashem and Moshe. The Torah therefore praises Moshe, that by his self-sacrifice in seizing the tablets with all his might (from Hashem and fearless of the consequences!), we have indeed received the whole Torah – known as Toras Moshe! (Lehoros Nasan on the Torah IV p.212).

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Paying when he cannot Swear

By: Reb Avi Lebowitz



In a situation where two witnesses would require someone to pay, one witness would require him to swear, but he is not completely denying the testimony of the witness and therefore cannot take the oath that is incumbent upon him, we apply the concept of מתוך שאינו יכול לישבע משלם – if he cannot swear, he must pay. Therefore, when a single witness testifies that Reuven grabbed something from Shimon, we assume that it belongs to Reuven since he was holding on to it. Had Shimon been willing to swear that he didn’t grab it from Reuven, we would believe him against the single witness. However, since Shimon admits to grabbing it, but is claiming that it rightfully belongs to him, he is unable to make the oath demanded of him, and therefore must return the item.



Tosfos asks that if Shimon would deny that he grabbed it and make an oath, he would be believed. Why don’t we believe Shimon to say that he grabbed it and swear that it belongs to him, with a migu that he could have said that he never grabbed it? If he would not make an oath that it belongs to him, it would not be a valid migu since he prefers to use the claim that would exempt him from a oath. But since he is now making an oath that it belongs to him, it should be a valid migu (assuming that he can use a migu even if the migu claim would require a Biblical oath)?



Tosfos explains that this is exactly the point of argument between Rav and Shmuel against Rabbi Abba. Rav and Shmuel (Shavuos 47a) hold that since he has a migu, we don’t require him to return the item. But Rabbi Abba holds that even though he has a migu, we require him to either swear to contradict the witness by saying that he didn’t grab it, or pay - no other options. Tosfos doesn’t clearly speak out the point of argument between Rav and Shmuel against Rabbi Abba.



It seems that the point of dispute is whether a single witness obligates Shimon to support his claim with an oath, or is he obligating him to pay with an option to exempt himself using an oath. According to Rav and Shmuel, a single witness obligates an oath - meaning, that he obligates Shimon to support his claim with an oath. By Shimon swearing that it is his, and using a migu that he could have sworn that he didn’t grab it, he is, in essence, using an oath to support his claim. But, Rabbi Abba holds that a single witness does not obligate him to merely support his claim with an oath. The fact that Shimon can prove he is correct by swearing it is his in conjunction with a migu isn’t sufficient. The single witness obligates Shimon to pay with the only option out of paying being an oath to contradict a single witness. Shimon’s only option out of paying is by making a oath to contradict the testimony of the single witness by swearing that he didn’t grab it. Since Shimon admits to grabbing it and cannot make this claim, we resort to the default that he must pay.

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