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Daily Daf Dose
Rabbah ruled: If someone stole a barrel of wine from his fellow and it was worth one zuz at the time it was stolen and four zuzim at the end (when it was destroyed), the halachah is as follows: If he broke the barrel or drank the wine, he would pay four (for up until the time of destruction, it belongs to the owner; the thief would have been obligated to return the barrel which was worth four zuzim; if he directly destroys it, he pays four). If it broke by itself, he pays one (for that is what it was worth at the time it was stolen).
The Ketzos Hachoshen explains that the reason he must pay four zuzim when he breaks it or drinks it is because he is regarded as a damager, and he pays for the object’s value at the time of the damage. It cannot be considered stealing at that time, for once an object has left the possession of the owner and enters the thief’s domain, there can be no more responsibility for stealing. This is because it is written: and it was stolen from the owner’s house. The Gemora learns from there that something cannot be stolen if it is in the house of the thief. Here, where, at the time it was damaged, it was in the thief’s domain, there cannot be a new “stealing.” This would be similar to one who steals from a thief, where the halachah is that the second thief is exempt from paying the principle. Therefore, in our case, when the thief breaks it or drinks it, he can only be liable for damaging it, not for stealing it.
The Nesivos Hamishpat disagrees and holds that while it is true that one who steals from a thief is exempt from paying the principle and he is not regarded as a thief, that is only when he did not add anything to the original thievery. This is why the second person cannot be regarded as a thief. However, if he caused a change to the stolen object, he has added to the thievery and can now also be regarded as a thief. Therefore, when the thief breaks it or drinks it, he has added to the original stealing by the fact that he has destroyed the object. He is therefore responsible on account of stealing.
The Ketzos Hachoshen explains that the reason he must pay four zuzim when he breaks it or drinks it is because he is regarded as a damager, and he pays for the object’s value at the time of the damage. It cannot be considered stealing at that time, for once an object has left the possession of the owner and enters the thief’s domain, there can be no more responsibility for stealing. This is because it is written: and it was stolen from the owner’s house. The Gemora learns from there that something cannot be stolen if it is in the house of the thief. Here, where, at the time it was damaged, it was in the thief’s domain, there cannot be a new “stealing.” This would be similar to one who steals from a thief, where the halachah is that the second thief is exempt from paying the principle. Therefore, in our case, when the thief breaks it or drinks it, he can only be liable for damaging it, not for stealing it.
The Nesivos Hamishpat disagrees and holds that while it is true that one who steals from a thief is exempt from paying the principle and he is not regarded as a thief, that is only when he did not add anything to the original thievery. This is why the second person cannot be regarded as a thief. However, if he caused a change to the stolen object, he has added to the thievery and can now also be regarded as a thief. Therefore, when the thief breaks it or drinks it, he has added to the original stealing by the fact that he has destroyed the object. He is therefore responsible on account of stealing.
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