Tuesday, April 24, 2007

Daf Yomi - Chagigah 17 - Shmini Atzeres - Independent Festival or Not?

The Beis Yosef (Y"D 120:20) cites a Yerushalmi in Nedarim: Rabbi Yochanan says: One who makes an oath against drinking wine on the "Chag," is prohobited from drinking wine on Sukkos, including Shmini Atzeres. The Beis Yosef writes that even though Shmini Atzeres is a festival by itself; that is only in respect to the six laws delineated in the Gemora, however in regard to the manner in which people speak, it is included in the festival of Sukkos, and the laws of vows are based on the way people speak.

The Meiri comments: Shmini Atzeres is only included in his vow if he just said "Chag," however if he explicitly said "Chag Hasukkos," Shmini Atzeres will not be included in his vow.

Proof is brought from here to one who mistakenly said "Chag Hasukkos" in Shemoneh Esrei instead of "Shmini Atzeres"; he has not fulfilled his obligation and must recite Shemoneh Esrei again.

The Turei Even (Megillah 5a) disagrees and he states that one who mistakenly said "Chag Hasukkos" in Shemoneh Esrei instead of "Shmini Atzeres" would not be required to repeat Shemoneh Esrei. His proof is from our Gemora which states that Shmini Atzeres is considered part of the compensation period for the korbanos of the first day of Sukkos. Furthermore, one who vows to bring a korban has three festivals to bring it before he will have transgressed the prohibition against delaying. If the third festival is Sukkos, he will not violate this prohibition until after Shmini Atzeres.

The Nishmas Adam rules that even though Shmini Atzeres is an independent festival, it is nevertheless related to Sukkos by the fact that one still eats in the sukkah and therefore one who mistakenly said "Chag Hasukkos" in Shemoneh Esrei instead of "Shmini Atzeres" would not be required to repeat Shemoneh Esrei.

2 comments:

Chatzkel said...

Doesn't Reb Moshe rule on this someplace? Thanks

Avromi said...

Yes - thanks Igros Moshe chelek gimmel O'C 97 - seems like he leans towards the opinion of not being yotzei because one is changing the matbeah of the nusach.