Thursday, August 31, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 85 - Violate one Shabbos to have many Shabbosos Observed

One opinion in the Gemara derives the source for the law that saving a life overrides the Shabbos laws from the verse that states the children of Israel shall observe the Shabbos in order to perform the Shabbos throughout their generations. This teaches us that one should violate one Shabbos by saving a life so that the person whose life was saved may live to observe many Shabbosos. The implication from the Gemara is that if we know for certain that the person whose life is being saved will not live until the next Shabbos, one is forbidden to violate the Shabbos on his behalf.

The commentators question this theory from the Gemara that we learned earlier (Yoma 71) that states that we allow the Shabbos to be violated even if the person for whom the Shabbos is being violated will only live for a few hours.

It is worth noting that the Ohr HaChaim in Parashas Ki Sisa (31:16) writes that we do not violate the Shabbos to save a life if the person will only live for a few more hours. The ruling of the Ohr HaChaim would appear to contradict the accepted halacha.

The Minchas Chinuch (mitzvah 32) resolves this issue by writing that we allow the laws of Shabbos to be violated to save a person’s life even for a few hours if a rabbinical prohibition will be violated. Regarding a biblical prohibition, however, we do not allow one to violate the Shabbos laws to save a life for only a few hours. The verse quoted earlier which teaches us that one can violate the Shabbos laws to save ones life so that one will be able to observe many Shabbosos refers to violating biblical prohibitions.

The Minchas Chinuch concludes that the final halacha is that one can violate even the biblical prohibitions of Shabbos to save a life, even if the person whose life is being saved will only live for a few hours. This is based on the exposition of the Gemara that derives the source for saving a life on Shabbos and overriding the laws of Shabbos from the verse that states you shall guard My decrees and My laws that man shall carry out and by which he shall live.

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Purity below, purity from Above

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The Mishnah states that Rabbi Akiva said: “fortunate are you, O Israel. Before Whom do you cleanse yourselves? Who cleanses You? Your father in Heaven! As it is stated I will sprinkle pure water upon you, and you shall be cleansed. And it also says: The mikveh of Israel is HaShem. Just as a mikveh purifies the contaminated, so does the Holy One, Blessed is He, purify Israel.” It is noteworthy that Rabbi Akiva poses two questions. One is, “before Whom do you cleanse yourselves,” and the second question is, “Who cleanses you?” When one seeks to become pure, i.e. to gain atonement for his sins and find himself once again in the good graces of HaShem, he must realize that purity and atonement is a two-step process. One must attempt to purify himself, by cleansing himself from sin, and he must realize that only Hashem can purify him from all his sins. The Rambam alludes to this idea in Hilchos Teshuvah (2:2) when he writes that the definition of repentance is that the sinner distances himself from the sin, removes the sin from his thoughts, and accepts on himself not to commit the sin ever again. The sinner must also regret his past actions, and the One Who knows all hidden matters, i.e. HaShem, will testify on him that he will never commit this sin again. The Rambam states explicitly that in order to gain atonement, one must make all the effort that is necessary for the repentance process to be effective, but ultimately, one has to rely on HaShem to testify that he will never commit that sin again. This is parallel to the purification process, where one does everything he can to purify himself, but ultimately, it is HaShem who cleanses him from all sin.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 85 - Highlights

1. If an ox of a Jew gores the ox of another Jew, the owner of the ox that damaged is required to pay to the claimant half damages. If the owner of the damaging ox is a Cuthean, he pays full damages. We have learned previously that if half of a city’s population is Jewish and half of the population is Cuthean and a child was abandoned and we are uncertain if the child is a Cuthean or a Jew, we treat the child as a Jew. The Gemara concludes that this refers to a case where his ox that was a tam (an ox that gored less than three consecutive times) gored an ox of a definite Jew. A Jew would be required to pay half damages whereas a Cuthean would be required to pay full damages. The law is that he is only required to pay half the damages to the claimant and regarding the other half he can tell the claimant , “bring proof that I am not a Jew and then collect the full damages from me.” Unless the claimant can prove that the damager is a Cuthean, the damager is only required to pay half the damages.
2. If a building collapsed on Shabbos and we are uncertain whether there is a person buried underneath, one must clear the rubble. Furthermore, even if we are certain that a person is buried underneath but we are uncertain if the person is alive or dead, we are obligated to clear the rubble on Shabbos. Lastly, not only are we obligated to clear the rubble if there is a doubt whether the person is alive or dead and we are certain that the person is a Jew, but even if there is a doubt whether the buried person is a Cuthean or a Jew, we are obligated to clear the rubble on Shabbos. The rationale for this ruling is that the possibility of saving a Jew’s life overrides the prohibition of clearing the rubble on Shabbos. One is obligated to clear the rubble even if the person buried underneath will only live afterwards for a short time period.
3. Rebbe Yehudah ben Lakish maintains that one can rescue a corpse from a fire on Shabbos, although the corpse is muktzeh and one is normally rabbinically prohibited to move muktzeh items on Shabbos. The rationale for this ruling is that because one is in turmoil that his relative’s corpse will be destroyed, and if he is not permitted to move the corpse before the corpse is consumed by the fire, he may come to extinguish the fire. Rather than have him violate a biblical prohibition of extinguishing a fire, the Chachamim allowed for him to move the corpse which is only a rabbinical prohibition. When a building collapsed and the person buried underneath died, we do not allow one to remove the corpse from the rubble, because there is nothing that he will do that will constitute a biblical prohibition, so there is no need to permit one rabbinical prohibition to prevent one from violating a different rabbinical prohibition.
4. If a victim was buried by the rubble and he is not moving and appears to be dead, there is a debate regarding where on his body one has to check to ascertain that he is dead. Some say that we must check up to his nose and if there is no breathing, then he is certainly dead and he should not be moved until after Shabbos. Others maintain that we check up to his heart to see if there is a heartbeat.
5. There is a debate in the Gemara regarding the source for the ruling that saving one’s life overrides the laws of Shabbos. Rabbi Yishmael derives this law from what is said if the thief was discovered while tunneling in. There is uncertainty whether the thief is merely coming to steal or to kill as well, and murder contaminates the land and causes the Divine Presence to depart, yet the owner is allowed to save himself at the cost of the thief’s life. Certainly, then, the saving of a life will override the laws of Shabbos, which is less stringent than bloodshed. Rabbi Akiva maintains that the source for the law that saving ones life overrides the laws of Shabbos is derived from the verse that states if a man shall act intentionally against his fellow to kill him with guile, from beside my altar shall you take him to die. The words from beside my altar teach us that only when a Kohen who was accused of murder and is about to begin the avodah is he taken away to be tried, whereas a Kohen who is already serving on the altar completes the avodah and then is taken away to be tried for murder. However, this only applies to being put to death, i.e. we allow the Kohen to complete the avodah before he is tried for murder, but if the Kohen knows testimony regarding someone else who is about to he executed, the Kohen is removed from performing the avodah even while in middle of the service. If regarding the Kohen, of whom it is uncertain whether his testimony will even save the life of the one standing to be executed, and furthermore, the avodah that he is performing is so stringent that it overrides Shabbos, yet we have the Kohen interrupt the avodah to possibly save a life, then certainly saving a life overrides Shabbos. Rabbi Elazar maintains that we derive the source for saving a life overriding the Shabbos laws from circumcision, which is an improvement to only one of a person’s two hundred and forty eight limbs, yet overrides the Shabbos, so certainly if one acts to save a person’s entire body, it should override Shabbos. The Gemara also cites three other opinions who offer various sources for the law that saving a life overrides the Shabbos laws.
6. Rabbi Yehudah said in the name of Shmuel that if he would have been involved in the discussion of the aforementioned Tanaaim, he would have offered a source for the law that saving a life overrides the Shabbos laws and that source would have been superior to all the other sources. The source that Shmuel would have offered was from the verse that states you shall guard My decrees and My laws that man shall carry out and by which he shall live. The verse implies that one shall live by the commandments and not die because of the commandments, so saving a life will override all commandments except for the three cardinal sins of murder, idolatry and adultery.
7. The Mishnah states that one who brings a chatas offering and a definite asham offering will gain atonement for sin. Death and Yom Kippur atone for sin as long as one repented. Repentance provides atonement for lesser transgressions, whether one violated positive or negative transgressions. Regarding severe transgressions, however, repentance suspends punishment until Yom Kippur arrives and atones.
8. An asham vaday, a definite asham, is brought when one definitely violated certain prohibitions, such as stealing and misusing scared objects. If one is uncertain whether he violated a prohibition which bears the punishment of kares, he must bring an asham taluy, a doubtful asham. There are two differences between the asham vaday and the asham taluy. An asham vaday effects a complete atonement whereas an asham taluy protects the person from punishment as long as he remains doubtful, but once he ascertains that he indeed sinned, he would be required to bring a chatas. A second difference between the two offerings is that regarding an asham vaday, nothing else can effect atonement, even after Yom Kippur has passed, whereas one who is liable to bring an asham taluy and Yom Kippur passes, he is exempt from bringing an offering because Yom Kippur effects the necessary atonement.
9. The Mishnah implies that Yom Kippur effects atonement only in conjunction with repentance. Rebbe, however, disagrees and maintains that Yom Kippur alone effects atonement for all sins in the Torah except for one who throws of the yoke of HaShem, one who acts insolently towards the Torah or for one who violates the covenant of the flesh, i.e. he refuses to circumcise himself or he hides the evidence of being circumcised. Yom Kippur will only atone for these two sins if one repents.

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Science or Fiction?

Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Science or fiction?

The Mishnah states that if one was bitten by a mad dog, we do not feed him from the dog’s liver lobe in order to heal him. Rambam explains that the rationale for this ruling is that the laws of the Torah are only suspended for cures that have a scientific rationale or have been shown by experience to be effective. One whose life is in danger can be healed through non-kosher medicine as long as it is a natural medicine. Rashi maintains that the reason we can not feed the person the dog’s liver lobe is because it is not a valid cure. The commentators wonder why one cannot heal someone on Shabbos even with a dubious remedy, as the halacha is that the laws of Shabbos are suspended in order to save a life. Shearim Mitzuyanim B’Halacha answers that Rashi’s explanation must be aligned with the opinion of the Rambam that the reason we cannot heal the person with the dog’s liver lobe is because this is not a scientific cure. Rather, this is a remedy known as a segulah, a talisman. It is noteworthy that the Chidah maintains that one is permitted to attempt to save a life with a forbidden food even if the remedy is only a segulah.

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Day Yomi - Yoma 84 - Highlights

Highlights


1. Five things were said regarding a mad dog. Its mouth is open, its saliva drips, its ears droop, its tail rest on its legs, and it walks on the side of the road, Some say that it also barks but its voice is not heard. There is a debate as to how the dog becomes mad. Rav maintains says that female sorcerers play with the dog and Shmuel maintains that an evil spirit rests on it. According to Shmuel the mad dog must be killed by throwing something at it, for if one gets too close to the dog, the evil spirit will attach itself to him. One who is rubbed by the mad dog will be in grave danger. The Gemara discusses the remedies if one is rubbed by the mad dog or if one was bitten by the mad dog.
2. Rabbi Yochanan suffered from a condition known as tzefidna, which begins in the teeth and gums and spreads to the intestines. A certain noblewoman provided Rabbi Yochanan with a remedy for his condition for Thursday and also for Friday. When Rabbi Yochanan pressed her to reveal to him the remedy for Shabbos, she revealed the remedy to Rabbi Yochanan but she made him swear that he would not divulge the secret. Rabbi Yochanan took the oath and immediately explained to her that the oath he had taken was not valid. This disclaimer allowed Rabbi Yochanan to teach the remedy in public. Had Rabbi Yochanan not explained to the noblewoman immediately that he had not made a binding oath, there would have been a desecration of HaShem’s Name.
3. The Gemara discusses different ailments and which remedies are allowed to be administered on Shabbos as these particular remedies have therapeutic value
4. One can desecrate Shabbos if it is possible to save one’s life. This is true even if we are convinced that he will survive through Shabbos even without the medicine. The rationale for this ruling is that we are concerned that if we do not heal him today, he may not live until the next Shabbos.
5. When it is necessary to administer medicine on Shabbos to one who is sick, we do not allow a gentile to administer the medicine. The reason for this ruling is that we are concerned that the gentile will procrastinate and this will cause the Jew to be in danger. For this reason we have the medicine administered by Jewish adults.
6. We do not listen to a woman or a Cuthean (converts to Judaism after an outbreak of wild animals in Eretz Yisroel and their conversion was debated as to its validity) if they assess that a patient requires a procedure that constitutes a desecration of Shabbos. However, if there is a situation where two Jewish males maintain that it is necessary to desecrate the Shabbos for this person and three people maintain that it is not needed, the woman or the Cuthean can combine with the opinion of the two Jewish males to make the two sides equal. Then we can apply the rule that when there is a doubt whether we should override the Shabbos prohibitions to provide for the patient, we are lenient regarding life and death matters and we treat the patient.
7. In a situation where there are nine gentiles and one Jew and one of the ten people departed and he is now in a life threatening situation, we do not maintain that the person in danger is a gentile because of the majority. Rather, we are lenient and we assume that the individual may be the Jew and we desecrate the Shabbos on his behalf.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - An Exalted Jew

An exalted Jew

The Gemara states that if one found an abandoned child in the city and we do not know whether the child is a Jew or a Cuthean, if a majority of the city’s inhabitants are Cutheans, he is treated as a Cuthean, and if the majority of the city’s inhabitants are Jews, he is treated as a Jew. If half of the inhabitants are Jews and half are Cutheans, then he is treated as a Jew. Rav said regarding the Mishnah that if most of the inhabitants are Jews, the child is treated as a Jew only with respect to sustaining him, but not with respect to ascribing pure lineage to him. Rashi explains that if the child is a female, a Kohen is prohibited to marry her even after she converts to Judaism, as a Kohen cannot marry a convert. Although the principle of majority dictates that this child was born a Jew, Rabbinic law requires extra safeguards to render her eligible for marriage to a Kohen. This is truly an amazing concept . One can be considered a Jew, yet we will not grant that person the status of having attained pure lineage. This idea can also be applied to the soul of a Jew. Although every soul was created from beneath the Heavenly Throne, one can cause his soul to be sullied through sin. The Gemara in Sanhedrin states that a Yisroel, even if he has sinned, is still a Yisroel. This implies that a Jew never loses his exalted status of being considered one of HaShem’s children. Yet, the Arizal writes that when a Jew sins, his soul departs from him. Yes, one is always a Jew, but a Jew without a soul is not an exalted Jew. Our ambition should be to remain exalted Jews, with the soul that HaShem breathed into us always functioning and retaining its pristine status that it had when it descended from the Heavenly Throne.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Question

Question regarding biblical prohibitions on Shabbos and Yom Tov

The Mishna states that if one feels pain in his throat, it is permitted to place medicine in his mouth on Shabbos, as saving a life supersedes the Shabbos prohibitions. The Gilyon Maharsha wonders what possible Shabbos prohibition could be violated in such a situation. Rav Zalman Leff, the Rosh Kollel from Boston noted that a similar question arises in the Gemara in Rosh Hashanah 33. The Mishnah there states that one cannot move a boulder which is resting on a shofar. Rabbeinu Chanannel states explicitly that this would be biblically forbidden. There too we must wonder what biblical prohibition is involved in moving a boulder on Yom Tov.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Perform a Less Severe Act even though Success is not Guaranteed

Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Perform a less severe act even though success is not guaranteed

The halacha is that when feeding a sick person with forbidden food, we initially attempt to feed him the food that is least severe in punishment regarding its consumption. The Sefer Toras HaYoledes wonders what the halacha would be in a situation where the food that is more severe in punishment for its consumption will certainly heal the person, whereas the food that is more lenient regarding the punishment for its consumption will not definitely heal the ill person. Do we disregard the certainty of the former food and feed the patient the food that is less severe in punishment for its consumption? It is clear that this question is only relevant when there is time to attempt feeding the patient the food that is less severe in punishment regarding its consumption. If this was not the case, it is clear that we would feed the patient the food that would certainly cure him. The Toras HaYoledes offers a proof from Tosfos here who writes that the Gemara states that one can extinguish a fire on Shabbos or one can set up utensils that are filled with water which will cause the fire to be extinguished. Tosfos wonders why the Gemara found it necessary to state that one can place utensils near the fire to cause it to be extinguished if we have already been taught that one can extinguish the fire directly. In his second answer, Tosfos explains that one would have thought that one is permitted to extinguish a fire directly because one will accomplish what he has set out to do. When one places utensils near the fire to extinguish the fire, however, it is possible that he will not accomplish what he set out to do, i.e., extinguishing the fire, and one would have thought that such an act should not be permitted. The Gemara therefore felt it necessary to teach us that even if one is not certain of the outcome, he can place the utensils near the fire to cause the fire to be extinguished. The Toras HaYoledes understands from the words of Tosfos that placing the utensils near the fire is only a rabbinical prohibition, as such an act will cause the fire to be extinguished indirectly. Since the act is only prohibited rabbinically, we prefer that one exercise this approach even though he may not accomplish what he has set out to do. Hence, we have a proof that one must always attempt to perform the act that is less severe in punishment even though one cannot be certain of success.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Violating the Shabbos to Save a Life

Daf Yomi - Yoma 84 - Violating the Shabbos to save a life

The Gemara states that one can violate the Shabbos if there is a possibility that ones life will be saved. The Aruch HaShulchan in Orach Chaim 328:3 notes that there is a debate amongst the Rishonim if the violation of Shabbos is totally permitted or if the laws of Shabbos are merely overridden because of the life-threatening situation. This debate would be analogous to the ruling that the laws regarding tumah, ritual impurity, are suspended regarding the community. The Gemara stated earlier that a korban belonging to the community can be offered even if the Kohanim are tamei. The Gemara records a debate regarding the need to find a Kohen who is tahor to perform the avodah. The argument is predicated on the question if the laws of tumah are totally permitted or if they are merely overridden because of the current situation. The same rationale can be applied with regard to saving a life on Shabbos. If saving a life is totally permitted, it is not necessary to seek a means of saving a life in a manner that the Shabbos would not be violated. If, however, we say that saving a life merely overrides the Shabbos prohibitions, then one must first ensure that there is no other means of saving the person’s life before one violates the Shabbos. The commentators wonder according to the opinion that maintains that saving a life on Shabbos is totally permitted, why is there a halacha that one must seek the more lenient prohibition?

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Monday, August 28, 2006

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Highlights

Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Highlights

1. Rabbi Yanai maintains that if one who is ill claims that he must eat on Yom Kippur and the doctor disagrees, we listen to the sick person and give him to eat. The rationale behind this ruling is that the heart knows the bitterness of its soul and we assume that he does not want to sin by eating on Yom Kippur.
2. Rabbi Yanai rules further that if the doctor maintains that the ill person is required to eat and the ill person disagrees, we listen to the doctor and give him to eat. In this situation the ill person’s feelings are disregarded as we posit that he is delirious due to his illness.
3. Mar bar Rav Ashi maintains that if the ill person maintains that he must eat on Yom Kippur and one hundred doctors disagree, we listen to the sick person and give him to eat.
4. The Mishnah rules that if a person suffers from a bulmus attack i.e. a life-threatening disease induced by hunger and one of its symptoms is that the person’s vision weakens, we can even offer him forbidden foods to eat until his eyesight improves.
5. When there is no permitted food available to improve ones health, he is permitted to consume prohibited food. Nonetheless, we must first feed him from forbidden foods whose consumption is of less severity in punishment.
6. It is beneficial to consume sweet foods that will improve ones eyesight as long as the sweet foods are consumed after having eaten other foods.
7. One who is afflicted with bulmus and seeks to improve his eyesight should consume the tail of a sheep, fine flour or barley flour mixed with honey.
8. Rabbi Yehudah and Rabbi Yose were once traveling and Rabbi Yehudah was afflicted with bulmus. Out of desperation, Rabbi Yehudah stole a loaf of bread from a shepherd so that he would be healed and Rabbi Yose reprimanded him. Upon entering the city, Rabbi Yose was afflicted with bulmus and the people of the city were compelled to bring him sweets in order to heal him.
9. The Gemara relates a story where Rabbi Meir determined that an innkeeper was a wicked person by examining his name.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Baal Loshon Hora Compared to a Mad Dog

Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Baal Loshon Hora Compared to a Mad Dog

The D’aas Kedoshim writes that the Chachamim compared one who speaks Lashon hara to a mad dog. This statement is sufficient to humiliate one who speaks Lashon hara, as man was created in the image of G-d and through his despicable actions he can be denigrated to the level of a mad dog. The analogy of one who speaks Lashon hara to a mad dog is appropriate, as both the one who speaks Lashon hara and a mad dog have similar characteristics. The Gemara in Yoma 83b states that five things were said regarding a mad dog. Its mouth is open, its saliva drips, its ears droop, its tail rest on its legs, and it walks on the side of the road. Some say it also barks but its voice is not heard. One who speaks Lashon hara always has his mouth open, and he is constantly dripping saliva, i.e. words of slander and degradation. One who speaks Lashon hara also has drooping ears, because the Gemara in Kesubos 5a states that one should pace his earlobe inside his ear so he should not hear improper words, whereas one who speaks Lashon hara not only does not refrain from hearing Lashon hara, but he widens his ears to hear more Lashon hara. For this reason he is likened to a mad dog whose ears are enlarged and doubled over. Furthermore, the mad dog walks on the side of the road, and a person who walks on the side of the road is deemed to be arrogant. It is well-known that arrogance leads one to denigrate the righteous. Lastly, the one who speaks Lashon hara is likened to a mad dog that barks but its voice is not heard. The one who speaks Lashon hara is concerned that the person he denigrates should not be informed of the slander, and if the victim is informed, the one who slandered him will deny his wrongdoing. Since he “barks” but his voice is not heard, the righteous person who is a victim of the slander is not aware of the words that were spoken against him and it is difficult to spare himself from the suffering which is caused by the one who barks and bites with his speech.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Bad Names - Bad Deeds

Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Bad Names - Bad Deeds

The Gemara relates a story where Rabbi Meir determined that an innkeeper was a wicked person by examining his name. Tosefes Yom HaKippurim questions this from a Medrash in Parshas Shelach regarding the names of the spies that Moshe sent to inquire about Eretz Yisroel. The Medrash states that some of their names were pleasant yet their deeds were despicable whereas others had despicable names yet their deeds were virtuous. Thus, we see that a name is not always indicative of ones actions. The Tosefes Yom HaKippurim answers that this Medrash would be deemed an anomaly, as people whose names have negative connotations usually act in a despicable manner.

The Shearim Mitzuyanim B’Halacha, however, posits that Rabbi Meir is of the opinion that we must always be concerned for the minority and it was for this reason that Rabbi Meir suspected the innkeeper of evil intentions. The language that Rabbi Meir used is proof to this, as Rabbi Meir said, “when I said that one should be particular about names, I meant only that someone with a name that has negative connotations warrants suspicion.” Rabbi Yehudah and Rabbi Yose, who were traveling with Rabbi Meir, maintained that one always follows the majority opinion, and in this instance they felt that the majority of names are not indicative of ones character.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Providing the Sick with the Most Lenient Prohibition

Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Providing the Sick with the Most Lenient Prohibition

The Gemara states that when there is no permitted food available to improve ones health, he is permitted to consume prohibited food. Nonetheless, we must first feed him from forbidden foods whose consumption is of less severity in punishment. An example of this would be a food that is only forbidden on account of a positive commandment, such as food that was planted during the Shemittah year. The prohibition of consuming such a food is more lenient than the prohibition of consuming tevel, which is food that Terumah and Maaser was not yet designated, and one who consumes tevel is punishable by death from heaven. The Ohr Sameyach in Hilchos Maachalos Asuros 14:14 suggests that this guideline only applies to the one who is feeding the sick person. The sick person himself, however, is not required to be particular and he can eat whatever he desires. The Ohr Samaeyach writes that this idea that the sick person does not have to be particular regarding what he eats would be analogous to the rule regarding a rodeif, one who is chasing after someone with the intent to kill him. A bystander can attempt to intervene by wounding the assailant but he must ensure that he does not kill the assailant. The victim, however, is not required to make such a calculation and he can actually kill the attacker. The Ohr Samaeyach writes that this is implied in the words of the Gemara that states that one who was seized with bulmus, we “feed” him the least severe of the forbidden foods available, implying that only the one performing the feeding must make a calculation, but the one consuming the food is not required to make such a calculation.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Listening to the Sick Person on Yom Kippur

Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Listening to the Sick Person on Yom Kippur

Rabbi Yanai maintains that if a sick person declares that he must eat on Yom Kippur and the doctor disagrees, we listen to the sick person and give him to eat. The rationale for this ruling is that the heart knows the bitterness of its soul and we assume that he does not want to be wicked and violate the prohibition of eating on Yom Kippur. The Shulchan Aruch in Orach Chaim 618:1 rules that even if there are one hundred doctors that concur that the sick person does not need to eat, we still listen to the sick person. Mishna Berurah writes that we must verify that the sick person knows that it is Yom Kippur, because it is possible that he forgot what day it was. The Gemara states further that if the doctor maintains that the sick person must eat and the sick person disagrees, we listen to the doctor and give him to eat. The sick person’s feelings are disregarded because it is possible that he was delirious due to his sickness. Shulchan Aruch in Orach Chaim 618:2 rules that if one doctor claims that the sick person should eat and another doctor disagrees, we give the sick person to eat. The rationale for this ruling is that when there is a doubt regarding saving someone’s life, we rule leniently. Shulchan Aruch in Orach Chaim 328:10 rules that if anyone claims that there is a sickness for which we need to desecrate the Shabbos, we listen to that person even if he is not an expert in the medical field, as we rule leniently when ones life is in danger. Regarding Yom Kippur, however, Shulchan Aruch does not make mention of the need to consult a medical expert. The Rema in Darchei Moshe to Orach Chaim 618:3, however, maintains that a medical expert is not necessary as long as one claims that he recognizes the sickness.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 83 - Story Regarding the Riva

The Radvaz (3:444) relates an incident regarding the Riva, one of the Baalei HaTosafos, who was ill with an illness that he eventually succumbed to. The doctor informed the Riva that if he were to fast on Yom Kippur he definitely would not be able to continue living and were he to eat, it would be possible that he could continue to live. The Riva was adamant in his refusal to eat on Yom Kippur and he subsequently died. The Radvaz writes that the Riva certainly did not maintain that one is permitted to be stringent with regard to his own health, as one is prohibited from disobeying the directives of the doctor. If one was coerced to violate a mitzvah in the Torah, if through his death HaShem’s Name will be sanctified, he is permitted to forgo his life. Rather, the Riva was aware that even if he were to eat he was not going to live and this is an illustration of the proverbial dictum that the heart knows the bitterness of its soul.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 82 - Chinuch on the Mother

Tosfos Yeshonim states that the mitzva of chinuch is only on the father and not on Beis Din. He extends this to mean that it is only on the father and not on the mother. He asks on himself from a Gemorah in Sukkah by Hilni HaMalka that it is evident from that Gemora that there is a mitzva of chinuch on the mother? He answers that there it was only "lmitzva b'alma."

Reb Akiva Eiger in Sukkah asks on this that the Gemora there is clear that it's more than just mitzva b'alma - it is the real mitzva of chinuch for the Gemora is prooving the halachos of sukkah from there?

This will be discussed at greater length iy"H, soon.

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Notes from David

I’m looking at my notes, and I have a couple of heorahs:



80a – the Marhartatz Chiyus has a discussion on shiurim (measurements) and concludes “according to this we can understand the whole topic”. However, in the first perek of Succah he writes that “the whole topic is very very deep and requires great investigation”.



81a – Rav Shizbi makes a statement about a shizbin of terumah. This relates to our discussion earlier regarding names of amoraim.



81b – regarding the concept that one who eats on the 9th is as though eh fasted 2 days. I heard two contradictory explanations for this: 1) eating a lot the day before makes you able to daven better on Yom kippur, and so its commendable to eat before to get comfort the next day; 2) eating the day before makes you fell the withdrawal from eating even more the second day, and so the hunger pangs are increased, making your fast equivalent to a 2 day fast

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Friday, August 25, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 80- Lekavod Shabbos

The Gemara states that after the Torah was given to Moshe at Sinai, a prophet is not permitted to innovate any law. It is interesting to note that the laws of muktzeh appear to be innovative laws, yet do not constitute a contradiction to this Gemara. The Rambam and Raavad both offer various reasons for the institution of muktzeh, so it is clear that muktzeh is not an innovation. Rather, the prohibition of muktzeh was instituted as a safeguard for the biblical laws of Shabbos, and the laws of muktzeh also allow one to observe Shabbos properly without the distractions that one is faced with during the weekday.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 80 - Yom Kippur's Eating is Different

The Gemora states that in order to be liable for eating on Yom Kippur, one must eat food the size of a date. This must be eaten in the time it takes to eat a פרס - half a loaf.

By all other prohibitions in the Torah, there is a halacha that one must eat it in the normal manner in order to be liable. The Shagas Aryeh rules that if one eats raw meat on Yom Kippur, he would have violated the Torah's prohibition. This is because the Torah does not state by Yom Kippur "Don't eat," rather the Torah states "you should be afflicted." It therefore does not have the standard guidelines of eating.

The Ksav Sofer rules, based on this, that if one ate before Yom Kippur an amount less than a date and on Yom Kippur ate more which accumalatively equals a date and he is satiated, he will be liable for eating on Yom Kippur. This again can only be understood by saying that we must distinguish between the 'eating' on Yom Kippur and elsewhere. This person did not eat the full amount on Yom Kippur and yet has violated the trangression. On Yom Kippur, the prohibition is not to eat in a manner that will lead to satisfaction. The Achiezer discusses if one would be allowed to have food inserted through intravenous. The reason to say that it is not permitted is because the Torah is not particular on the action of eating, rather the satiation that comes from it.

This could be the explanation in our Gemora. Even though one who eats food in the amount of a date in a longer span that it would take to eat a half a loaf is considered eating, however he is not satiated through this and hence not liable.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 80 - Halachos that were Forgotten

The Gemora brings an argument regarding שיעורין. One Tanna holds that all the שיעורין are learned from a הלכה למשה מסיני and others hold that the court of Asniel ben Knaz established them and later they were forgotten and reestablished.

The Rambam states that it is impossible to argue on a halacha l'Moshe misinai and there cannot be arguments regarding that halacha. The Brisker Rov explains our Gemora. The first Tanna held that the halacha of 'amounts' were never forgotten and therefore there is no court that can ever change or argue on this. there is never a possibility that a future court will say that one will not be liable unless a larger שיעור is eaten. The second opinion held that this halacho was from the three thousand halachos that were forgotten in the time they were mourning for Moshe. The beis din of Asniel was able to reestablish these halachos using the thirteen principles that the Torah can be expounded with. Therefore it is possible that a future beis din can come and disagree or change the size of certain שיעורין.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 79 - Eating and Drinking

The Rama (197) brings an opinion that holds that there is not an obligation for birchas hamazon unless one eats and drinks. Eating alone is not sufficient for there to be an obligation. This is learned from the possuk ואכלת ושבעת וברכת. They learn that the word ושבעת is referring to drinking. The Torah is telling us that both are needed for bentching. The שער הציון brings from a Tosfos Yeshonim on our daf that the halacha is not in accordance with that opinion and that there is an obligation for a brocha acharona for eating and one for drinking and both together are not required.

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Thursday, August 24, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 78 - Feeding a Minor

The Marcheshes wonders as to the reason we are allowed to feed minors on Yom Kippur. Is it because they are in a situation of danger if they would fast and therefore saving their life pushes away the prohibition of eating or is it because a minor is not obligated at all in the mitzva of afflicting himself on Yom Kippur.

Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank asks that a minor is not included regarding all prohibitions in The Torah and yet we are not allowed to feed him something which is forbidden, so Yom Kippur should be the same? This compels him to learn that the reason is because we are concerned for his health. The Rambam rules that a minor under the age of nine should not be afflicted on Yom Kippur and his reason is because otherwise, it might lead to endanger his life. The Ran on our daf seems to agree with this logic (although he disagrees with the Rambam in a different aspect).

There would be a difference l'halacha as to what the reason is. If the reason is because we are concerned for his life, there would be limitations on what and when we should feed him. However, if there is no prohibition, we can feed him whenever and whatever we please.

Minchas Chinuch writes that one should not feed a minor any more than he possibly needs. He states this even regarding a baby, however he concludes that it is difficult to ascertain precisely what is considered his needs.

There is a question as to how one should feed minors on Yom Kippur. Perhaps, one should not give them to eat directly, for one is not permitted to give issurim to someone else.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 78 - Touching Food on Yom Kippur

There is a question discussed in some of the Poskim if one is allowed to touch food on Yom Kippur. Perhaps it has a halacha similar to muktza. Mahril Diskin brings a proof from our Gemora that it is permitted. Rav Yehuda stated that one is permitted to cool himself off with fruit and he actually did so with a certain type of vegetable. However, he retracts from this proof because the Gemora can be referring to fruits and vegetables that cannot be eaten raw and there is no suspicion that he will come to eat it, however a food that we are worried that one might forget and eat it, should not be touched on Tom Kippur.

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Apology

We apologize for not posting or responding to comments yesterday. My computer was down - actually it still is, but we can't let another day slip by. Iy"H, it will be fixed today.

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Tuesday, August 22, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 77 - Notes on Agadata 1

77a-
"Had the coals not cooled off while being transferred from the hands of the Cherub to the hands of Gavriel, no remnant or survivor would be left from the enemies of Israel." The Gemara in Pesachim 118a states that Gavriel is the angel of fire, so it follows that Gavriel should be the one bearing the coals. yet, Gavriel has the Cherub transfer the coals to him, allowing them to cool down, and the Jewish People are saved. This transfer reflects the Gemara in Kesubos 5a that states that the Bais HaMikdash is created with two hands, whereas the heavens were created with one hand. The Bais HaMikdash is considered the handiwork of the righteous, so it follows that Gavriel saved the Jewish People from being destroyed in the merit of the righteous, as the Gemara here states earlier that Michael said to HaShem, "Master of the Universe, it is sufficient that the nation be spared for the sake of the good among them."

"They brought in Dubiel, the ministering angel of the Persians." The Gemara in Megillah 11a states that Persia is compared to a דוב, a bear, hence the name דוביאל.

"What is meant by כן יתן לידידו שנא, these are the wives of Torah scholars who lose sleep (מדדות שינה) in this world and merit the World to Come. " We find other instances where the word מדדד is used as a metaphor for toiling in Torah. Regarding Yaakov it is said ותדד שנתי מעיני, and the Bereishis Rabbah states there that Yaakov did not study Torah (משנתי מלשון משנה) while working for Lavan. (There it actually means he was pushed away from Torah). Furthermore, when the Jewish People received the Torah, the Gemara in Shabbos 88b states that the Jewish People moved backwards twelve mil and the angels pushed them forward, as it is said מלכי צבאות ידודון ידודון אל תיקרי ידודון אלא ידדון.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 76 - Drinking is Included in Eating

The Gemora states that there are five afflictions that we are obligated to submit ourself to on Yom Kippur. The Gemora asks that actually there are six? The answer given is that drinking is included in eating.

The Gemora in Chulin states that if one melts forbidden fats into a liquid and drinks it, he will be liable. This is learned from an extra word in a passuk. Tosfos asks that why is an extra possuk necessary, let us say that drinking is included in eating? Tosfos answers that this is only said by something that is normal to drink, however something which really is a food item and now it has been transformed into a liquid, there drinking is not included in eating and therefore we need a special possuk.

Reb Akiva Eiger asks a question on this from a Gemora in Shavuos. A similar question can be asked on our Gemora. Why does our Gemora say that there are only five afflictions, when in fact there are six? Drinking a liquid on Yom Kippur, which was originally a solid will not be included in eating and hence would be considered a sixth affliction?

Perhaps we can answer that Tosfos' distinction only pplies by something that is an 'issur cheftza'. Chelev, which is intrinsently forbidden, we can say that when it is transformed into a liquid, it is not included in the standard prohibition of eating. However, by Yom Kippur, which is an 'issur gavra', the food is not intrinsently forbidden, rather the person is obligated not to eat, here there is no difference between a standard liquid and a food item transformed into a liquid. All liquids are included in the prohibition of eating on Yom Kippur.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 76 - Manna Due to Yehoshua

The Gemora states that in the merit that Yehoshua waited for Moshe at the bottom of the mountain, maana fell for him in the amount fitting for the entire Klal Yisroel. What was the point for this? Even if you collected more, you nevertheless only were able to get according to the amount of people in your household and only a set amount per person?

Meshech Chochma has a novel approach to this Gemora. Klal Yisroel received the manna in the zchus of Moshe. Moshe died on the seventh of Adar. The manna lasted for them until the sixteenth of Nissan when they entered Eretz Yisroel. These forty days, the manna was in the zchus of Yehoshua. This was a direct result from the forty days that Yehoshua waited for Moshe.

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Monday, August 21, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Manna and more food?

The Gemara states that seasonings for making a sweet and aromatic cooked dish came down for the Jewish People together with the manna. It would seem odd that if the manna tasted like anything one could desire, that one should need seasonings to improve the food. Unless the seasonings were to improve the food that they bought from gentile mercahnts.

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Sunday, August 20, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Agadta in Specific Mesechtos

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The Gemara incorporated in Maseches Yoma the lessons of the manna that fell from heaven. Prior to the discussion of the manna the Gemara derives from verses that are stated regarding the manna the concept of inuy, affliction, which is the theme of Yom Kippur. Reb Tzadok HaKohen from Lublin writes in Tzidkas HaTzaddik that the Chachamim incorporated the agadata regarding the manna in Maseches Yoma similar to the discussion regarding the Receiving of the Torah which is recorded in Maseches Shabbos. The reason the Gemara discusses the receiving of the Torah in Maseches Shabbos is because the Torah was given on Shabbos and the power of Torah is through the Shabbos. Similarly, the Gemara expounds on the miracles of the manna in Maseches Yoma because the manna was absorbed into the bodies of those who consumed the manna. On Yom Kippur one is nourished from the spiritual aspect contained in the manna, and one needs Divine Assistance to merit this. In Maseches Gittin we find the discussion regarding the destruction of the Bais HaMikdash, as the destruction of the Bais HaMikdash and the exile of the Jewish People from Eretz Yisroel was similar to a divorce of which it is said, “what is your mother’s bill of divorce by which I sent her away?” Mahri Chagiz writes that all spiritual matter is clothed in this world in a physical garment, and one who is capable can separate the physical from the spiritual and the remnants are absorbed into one’s physical being. Such a person will not have a need to expel any waste. The Torah refers to the manna as lechem haklokel, the insubstantial food. Rashi in Avodah Zara and in Parashas Chukas writes that the manna was thus referred to because it was absorbed in the limbs of the Jewish People and they had no need to expel any waste from their system.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Could the Manna Taste like Pig?

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Could the Manna Taste like Pig?

Gilyonei Hashas writes that he saw in a certain sefer that discusses the issue of what would be if a person had in mind that the manna should taste like something which is forbidden to eat, such as chazir. What would you think should be the halacha?

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Bentching After Eating the Manna

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Bentching After Eating the Manna

Rav Yosef Engel asks on the obligation for birchas hamazon after eating the manna. He asks that benthcing is only after eating one of the five grains and the manna is not a grain? The fact that it tasted like bread should not be sufficient. He answers that the Gemora Brochos which states that they bentched after eating the manna is going in accordance with the opinion in our Gemora that not only did the manna taste like bread, but it had the texture and appearance of bread as well. This would require a birchas hamazon. There are some opinions who hold that they did not bentch after eating the manna.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Manna Issues Rulings

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Manna Issues Rulings

The Gemora relates that the manna was able to reveal to us the status of a baby as to which family it belongs to. If a child is born and there is a doubt if it was a seven-month baby to the second husband or a nine-month baby to the first husband, the manna would be a determinating factor for us. An omer of manna per person in the household fell by that house. The amount of manna that fell by each house indicated to us the amount of children that belonged to that particular family.

The Tosfos Yom Hakippurim asks that there is a rule that Torah cannot be decided by heaven or a prophet. How could we rely on the manna for this? He answers that Moshe actually decided these issues without the benefit of the manna, however in order to avoid people having complaints on him, the manna served as a proof that he resolved the issue correctly.

Einei Shmuel answers that only a halachic judgement cannot be determined by heaven or a prophet, however an issue which is a factual doubt can be resolved in this method.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Digestion of the Manna

Daf Yomi - Yoma 75 - Digestion of the Manna

The Gemora states that when Klal Yisroel ate the manna in the desert, it absorbed into their limbs. The Chazon Ish explains this to mean that it entered straight into their limbs without being digested at all. Based on this, he asks a question on the Magen Avraham.

The Magen Avraham rules that one does not make a brocha acharona after smelling besamim because the benefit is not in existence anymore and it is similar to food being digested already, that one doesn't make a brocha acharona on. The Chazon Ish asks from a Gemora Brochos which states that Moshe instituted the first brocho of bentching at the time that the manna fell in the desert. The manna was absorbed into a person's limbs immediately without being digested and nevertheless there was an obligation to bentch afterwards, so too by smelling incense, there could be a brocha acharona afterwards. He offers a different reason why there's no brocha acharona on besamim based on Rashi who states that it is not enough of a prominent benefit that should mandate a brocha.

The mefarshim learn different than the Chazon Ish regarding digesting the manna. It was digested like regular food and it was not immediate, however it lacked any extraneous element. There was no waste product involved. A proof to this is from our Gemora which relates that when Klal Yisroel ate food which was purchased from the peddlers in the desert, the manna inside of them transformed that food to be similar to the manna. Evidently, the manna did not absorb immediately.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 74 - Half a Date

In order to be chayav on Yom Kippur for eating, one must eat at least the size of a large date, which will provide him satisfaction. Less than that amount, he will not be satiated and therefore not liable. The Gemora brings an argument between Reb Yochanan and Rish Lakish regarding one who eats less than this amount, if it will be forbidden min haTorah or not.

The Yerushalmi in Terumos disagrees and holds that even though Rish Lakish normally holds that chatzi shiur is permitted, by Yom Kippur he agrees that he will be chayav. The Gaon explains the reasoning. The Torah does not state by Yom Kippur that one should not eat, rather it says that a person should be afflicted, which we learn from there that one shouldn't eat and be satiated. Eating an amount equivalent to a date will satisfy a person fully and eating less than that will satiate him somewhat. This is why Rish Lakish agrees.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 74 - Face Washing

Daf Yomi - Yoma 74 - Face Washing

Tosfos Yeshonim states that it is forbidden min haTorah to wash or smear one's entire body on Yom Kippur. This is why it is permitted for a king or bride to wash their faces, for that would be only an issur midrobonon and the decree was never instituted by them.

The Gaon from Minsk asks that even though it's true that the Torah only forbade washing the entire body and not just their faces, but it should be forbidden min haTorah according to the opinions that chatzi shiur (less than the required amount)is forbidden min haTorah?

The Emek Brocha answers that chatzi shiur is ossur only when the Torah is particular on a certain amount. Here the Torah forbade washing the entire body for the benefit one receives from that washing is considered that he is not afflicting himself. Washing one's face is not a benefit that contradicts affliction and therefore the Torah did not forbid this and it will not be included in chatzi shiur as well.

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Friday, August 18, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 73 - Urim V'Tumim

The Gemora states the format and the position of the kohen gadol when a question is being asked to the Urim V'Tumim. There seems to be two arguments between Rashi and the Rambam. Rashi holds that the asker (the king) and the kohen were facing each other and the kohen's face was turned towards the choshen which encased the Urim V'tumim. The Rambam holds that the kohen was facing the aron and the asker faced the back of the kohen. Another argument pertains to the voice of the one asking. The Rambam holds that nobody else should hear him, similar to the way we daven and that is the proof of the Gemora to this form the tefillah of Chanah. Rashi, however (Tosfos Yeshonim is explicit regarding this) that the kohen hears the question which is being asked.

The sefer Imrei Chein explains these opinions. They are arguing as to who is the nishal - to whom are we asking the question. Rashi holds we are asking the kohen gadol and that is why the asker faces him and that explains why he must hear the question. Rambam disagrees and holds that the question is to the Shechina. The kohen is only a conduit to the Ribono Shel Olam. This is why they both are facing the aron, the place where the Shechina resides and this explains why the kohen does not have to hear the question.

Look in Ibn Ezra in Parshas Pinchos where the Torah informs us of the asking of the Urim V'Tumim and he says two explanations in the words of the passuk 'al piv yetzu'. One pshat is by the mouth of Elozar HaKohen through the Urim V'Tumim and his second explanation is by the words of the Urim V'Tumim. The two explanations are based on what we explained before.

According to this, perhaps we can explain a Gemora in Temurah. The Gemora relates that in the days when Klal Yisroel were mourning the loss of Moshe Rabbeinu, three thousand halochos were forgotten. They went to Yehoshua and Elozar (and others) and said "Go ask from Hashem these halachos." There were two responses given. One was that a prophet does not have permission to create new laws and a second answer to them was that Torah cannot be found in the heaven. What is the significance of these two responses?

The Brisker Rov asks on how would they have asked Hashem anyway? Moshe was the only one who had a direct channel to Hashem. They couldn't speak to Hashem whenever they wanted? He answers that the Gemora means that they would ask by utilyzing the Urim V'Tumim.

We now can understand the two responses of the Gemora (bderech drush ktzas), based on the two explanations of the Urim V'Tumim. If the question was asked to the Ribono Shel Olam and the kohen is only a conduit, the response that was given to Klal Yisroel at that time was Torah cannot be found in the heavens. A halachic shaila cannot be answered using the Urim V'Tumim. If the question was asked to the kohen and he would answer using the Urim V'Tumim, his response was that a prophet cannot create new halachos and therefore he doesn't have the power to return those halachos that were forgotten.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 73- Lekavod Shabbos

The Gemara states that in scared matters we elevate but do not lower. At the onset of Shabbos, one attains a neshama yeseira, an extra soul. When Shabbos ends, the neshama yeseira departs from a person. Although we always elevate in sacred matters, we must return to the mundane of the weekday. Yet, our consolation is that we always ascend in holiness, and when the following Shabbos arrives, we once again attain the neshama yeseira. Certainly on Shabbos itself one should constantly be engaged in ascending in holiness, by delighting in the Shabbos, studying Torah, praying, and singing zemiros to HaShem.

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Thursday, August 17, 2006

Daf yomi - Yoma 72 - Breakaway Shul

Currently we have been discussing the correct approach that one should have when engaging in Torah study. Tosfos poses a contradiction from two different Gemaras. One Gemara implies that one should only study Torah leshmo, whereas a different Gemara seems to indicate that one can even engage in Torah study shelo leshmo. Tosfos resolves this discrepancy by explaining that one can only be justified in studying Torah shelo leshmo if he is not seeking to aggravate others with his Torah studies. Regarding one who engages in Torah study for the sake of aggravating others, the Gemara states that it is better had he not even come into existence. The Netziv in Meishiv Dovor adopts a different approach to resolve this contradiction. The Netziv writes that there are two distinct forms of learning. One manner of learning is when one wishes to render conclusive rulings, and a dissimilar approach is one who engages in Torah study merely for the sake of attaining Torah knowledge. One who is engaged in Torah study with the intention of rendering a conclusive ruling must ensure that he is studying leshmo, for the Torah’s own sake, as any other motive will lead him to err in halachic rulings. The Netziv penned this response regarding a Jew who sought to distance himself from a congregation and create his own group of worshippers. When other Jews learned of this man’s intentions, they rebuked him for attempting to sow discord in the community. The man who was seeking to create his own prayer group approached the Netziv and explained to the Netziv that he felt justified in his aims, especially since the rabbis frown upon one who commences construction of a new synagogue and abandons his plans halfway through the project. The Netziv responded that when one is engaged in Torah study shelo leshmo when attempting to rule in halachic matters, the Torah that he studies does not stand in his merit and it would have been better that he had not come into existence. The rationale for this is that one who engages in Torah study that is not for the sake of Torah is not deemed to have truly studied Torah.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 72 - Shelo Lishma

The Gemara states that if one is meritorious through Torah study, the Torah will be a balm of life for him. If he is not meritorious, however, the Torah will be like poison. Rav Refoel HaKohen Hamburger writes in his sefer Daas Kedoshim that the term the Gemara uses for meritorious, zoche, refers to one who studies Torah leshmo, for its own sake. Rav Hamburger writes further, based on the words of the Rambam in Hilchos Talmud Torah, that the Gemara states that one should always study Torah shelo lishmah, because one who studies Torah shelo lishmah will eventually study Torah leshmo. This is true if ones intention is to ultimately study Torah leshmo. When one is young and has just begun to study Torah, he may require an ulterior motive to spur him on in his studies. Upon attaining the degree of studying Torah which is referred to as leshmo, the Torah that he studies is a balm of life. When one does not succeed in studying Torah leshmo, then his Torah study is akin to poison.

The Sefer HaChinuch in mitzvah fourteen, however, appears to maintain that even one who studies Torah shelo leshmo, without the intention of ever studying Torah leshmo, will be effected by his Torah study and he ultimately will attain the level of studying Torah leshmo. The Chinuch posits that this is analogous to one who collects taxes illegally on behalf of the king. Eventually, such a person will transform into a thief, as his actions will influence him negatively. Conversely, if one performs positive actions, albeit for the wrong reasons, he will ultimately be influenced to perform those actions altruistically.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 72 - Talmid Chocham Compared to Aron

The Gemora learns from the fact that the aron was coated with gold on the outside and the inside that a talmid chochom should be the same. His inside should be as pure as his outside. The Hafloaa in Ponim Yofos comments that the comparison to the aron eludes to the learning of Torah 'lishmo'. The aron was pure gold on the outside and inside, yet the middle was wood. A person when he begins learning should try to learn 'lishmo', however when he sees that there are difficulties and stumbling blocks to this endeavor, he must adept and perhaps will be successful if he learns 'shelo lishma', providing that his goal is to 'reach for the gold' and eventually learn purely 'lishmo'.

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 71 - Kesones was Shatnez?

It is stated in the Mishna that the kohen gadol wears eight begodim and the kohen hedyot dons four. The Yerushalmi comments that each one of the kohen's clothing served as an atonement for a specific aveira. The shirt is a forgiveness for the transgression of wearing shatnez (wool and linen together). The commentators on Midrash explain the connection between the shirt and shatnez because the shirt itself was shatnez. This is extremely bewildering for it is explicit that the shirt of the kohen was made solely from linen and there was no wool in it?

There is a famous answer given based on a riling of the Rama. He rules that one is forbidden to wear shoes of linen and socks from wool, even though they are two different articles. The reason for this is because it is considered like one since the socks cannot be removed without first taking off the shoes. The same can be said regarding the kohen's shirt. The kohen gadol wore the robe on top of the shirt and the robe was made from wool. Since the shirt could not be removed without first taking off the robe, this can be considered shatnez.

There are those that say that this can be the reason why the kohen gadol puts the headplate (tzitz) on last. In truth, he can lift his hands in the air and wiggle out of the shirt without removing the robe. However, there is a halacha that he cannot lift his hands higher than the tzitz because it has Hashem's name inscribed on it. It comes out that the wearing of the tzitz is what creates the shatnez of the shirt and the robe, hence we delay the placing of the tzitz until the end.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 71 - Out of Order

The Gemora states that all the pesukim which are written in the Torah regarding the avodah on Yom Kippur are written in their precise order and must be adhered to except for the possuk which refers to the removal of the ladle and pan from the Kodesh Kodoshim. This is written together with the other avodos that were done with the bigdei lovon, while in truth, the kohen gadol would first change to the golden clothes and later don a new set of bigdei lovon to enter the Kodesh Kodoshim and remove these two utensils.

Rav Chisda explains the reasoning for this. There is a halacha l'Moshe misinai dictating that the kohen gadol must immerse himself in the mikvah five times on Yom Kippur. He did that every time he changed clothing. If there wasn't this additional changing, he would be immersing only three times.

The Chachmas Adam brings from the Vilna Gaon that it would seem odd that the Torah wrote it in this manner and not according to the correct sequence. The Gaon states that it is correct. It is written in Midrash that Aharon was able to enter the Kodesh Kodoshim whenever he wanted (even not on Yom Kippur), providing that he would enter in the same fashion and bring the exact korbonos as Yom Kippur. The Gaon proposes that during the rest of the year, he would do the avodos according to the precise order of the pesukim for there is no halacha l'Moshe misinai that five immersions are required on those days.

There is a question in the mefarshim if other kohanim gedolim (besides Aharon) were permitted to enter in this manner, as well.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 71 - Out of Order # 2

It is stated in Tosefta that any avodah on Yom Kippur which is done in an imprecise order is deemed invalid except for the removal of ladle and the firepan from the Kodesh Kodoshim. If this was done in the wrong order, it is still valid. The Brisker Rov explains that this is because it is written in the wrong order in the Torah. The only reason it is switched is because of the halacha l'Moshe misinai that there must be five immersions by the kohen gadol and hence five changing of clothes. However, it is not included in the 'seder' of the avodos of Yom Kippur.

The Mikdash Dovid posits a simpler reason. If he removed the utensils from the Kodesh Kodoshim in the wrong order, what can possibbly be done. It is impossible to correct. What was done was done. There is no option to remove it again.

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Yoma 70 - Question and Answer

In learning today's daf, the following question occurred to me:
One of the reasons that the Gemora gives as to why the Kohen Gadol reads the parsha from Pinchas b'al peh is that taking out a 2nd sefer would necessitate an unnecessary brocha. Why could they not take out 2 Sifrei Torah at the same time as we do and read from each one as needed? Wouldn't the Kohen gadol be able to say the same brocha on both seforim?
Dov Dubovick
Chicago, IL

From learning the gemora and the fact that the gemora asked only on the second reason your question and not on the first reason, it seems evident that a second sefer torah would require another brocha and for the kohen gadol to recite both would be unnecessary.

I will check more though

A little further research seems to say that the reshash asks your kasho and adds that he has in mind on the second torah, so there should be only one brocha. The sevara I mentioned before is stated that each sefer should have its own brocha due to kovod hatorah.

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Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 70 - Glorifying Mitzvos Only in Public

The Gemora states that after the kohen gadol concluded his reading of the Torah, each and every person would take their own sefer Torah out and read from it. Rashi learns that that the purpose is to show the glory of the Torah and the toil involved in beautifying the mitzva. There are those that learn from here that the mitzva of glorifying a mitzva learned from the passuk of זה קלי ואנוהו is only when it is in public but not when performing a mitzva in private. There are examples that seem to prove otherwise. This is a good issue to discuss at length.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 70 - 100 Brochos

The Gemora states that two reasons explaining why a second sefer Torah was not brought to the kohen gadol for Parshas Pinchas. One is because it will look like the first one was possul. Secondly, it will cause him to make a new brocha unnecessarily.

The latter reason is brought down in Shulchan Aruch regarding a shochet who has many animals ready to be shechted. He should not talk in between the slaughterings for then he would be required to recite another brocha.

The Shalah rules that on Shabbos it is permitted to delay eating the fruits that were brought in middle of the meal and rather wait for the conclusion of the meal in order to enable a recital of a brocha acharona which will help one reach the goal of reciting one hundred brochos every day (which can be difficult on Shabbos).

The Magen Avrohom asks on this from our Gemora. Yom Kippur is even more difficult to reach this goal and nevertheless we do not permit the kohen gadol to bring another sefer Torah enabling him the opportunity of reciting another brocha.

Perhaps we can answer that this would be applicable only to the kohen gadol and therefore we apply the regular halacha of ברכה שאינה צריכה, however the fruits on Shabbos pertains to everyone and would be beneficial for all, so there we permit the extra brocha.

I just found in the אליהו רבה that the kohen gadol did not have the problem of one hundred brochos for he recited eight brochos on krias haTorah and he made a brocha on each and every avodah according to the Ramban.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 70 - Removal of the Ladle

Two Acharonim (Mikdash Dovid and Toras Hakodesh) have a similar chakirah regarding the removal of the כף from the Kodesh Hakodoshim. Which hand does the kohen gadol use to remove the ladle? He entered with it in his left hand, but here it is a shaila. The reason he holds it in his left hand when entering is because the machta (firepan) was heavy and he was compeled to carry that with his right hand. Do we say that in the removal of these keilim, he should use his right hand for the כף, which is more important or do we say that he should use his left hand, for once the carrying of the ladle was done with his right hand, it should always remain that way?

I was wondering as to why they are assuming that it had to be done with two hands. Could he not remove both of them with his right hand? They were not heavy or hot at this time?

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Two Earlier Comments from Reb Reuven Levitin

1. You had a question about why the path of the Kohen Gadol reflected the second bais hamikdosh, and not bayis Rishon, or the eagerly anticipated bayis Shlishi. I would suggest that the Mishnayos were written by Tanoim, many of which lived during bayis Sheni. They were giving examples based on what their current experience was. Even though Rebbi lived a good 100 years after the BM II was destroyed, the Tanoim of his time were very familar with that which wasn't all that long before. I also believe that Rebbi is a compiler of mishnayos, not the writer, many of them predated him.
2. On Perek Alef Eicha (Farkas) the comments had some skepticism on Rav Gifter's quote from the Gra'Y. (I think one of them was Ben) First of all, Rav Gifter was an Eidim by R' Zalman Bloch, not the Gra'y. Also, I have heard that story Beshem Rebetzin Ausband, who is a daughter of R' Avrohom Yitzchok. THe skepticism was related to how did the story get out. R' AY B (and much of the Yeshiva) was killed on 20 Tamuz. Most of the city, however, including the Nashim vetaf, were killed on 7 ellul, almost 2 months later. So there was adequate time for such a story to get out. Either way, however, it is efsher levarer, as Rebetzin Ausband is still in Cleveland.

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We were away from civilization (Goshen, Indiana) for a few days and posting has been light. We hope, with Hashem's help, that now that we are back (if South Haven, Michigan can be called civilization), we will be able to provide you with insights, questions and answers related to the daf that will excite you and propel all of us to greater heights in learning. We thank Ben for manning the fort. Please scroll down for four new posts on today's daf plus a response from Kollel Iyun Hadaf to one of our participant's question. Please take the time to visit Daf Notes Discussion, located on the sidebar, where we have a new posting from Reb Eliezer Jacobovits. Thank you.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 69 - Boruch Sheim

Whenever a bracha was recited in the Beis Hamikdosh, the people would respond with ברוך שם כבוד מלכותו לעולם ועד. Would this response be required to be in a quiet tone like we say it in krias shema or perhaps it can be answered loudly?

There are two reasons as to why we recite ברוך שם quietly. The Gemora in Pesachim relates that the שבטים said שמע ישראל and Yaakov responded with ברוך שם. The chachamim had a dilema as to how we should recite shema. Perhaps we should not say ברוך שם for it is not in the Torah, however it is not proper to refrain from saying it for Yaakov did recite it. They resolved this by ruling that it should be recited quietly.

There is a Midrash that relates what transpired when Moshe went up th שמים. He heard the malachim praising the רבונו של עולם with ברוך שם. He was greatly impressed with this and brought it down for Klal Yisroel to say as well. The Midrash brings a parable and concludes that it would not be proper to recite this tefillah out loud for it is considered stolen from the angels, however on Yom Kippur, when we are compared to malachim, it can be said out loud.

We will iy"H write more about this issue later in the day.

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Monday, August 14, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 69 - Avodah Zara and Arayos

The Gemara states that after vanquishing the desire for idolatry, the Chachamim sought to curb the desire for immorality. I was just wondering if there is a difficulty with this idea because the Gra (quoted in Margolias HaYam to Sanhedrin 63b, note 23) writes that whenever the Jewish People worshipped idols, it was always with the intent to permit immoral relationships, so once the desire of idolatry disappeared, why would they even desire immorality? Perhaps the two ideas are only related in that one who worshipped idols would do so with the ulterior motive being immorality, but essentially immorality is mutually exclusive from the desire for idolatry.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 69 - Sitting in a Sukkah During the Rain

The Gemora states that the kohanim were permitted to derive pleasure from their clothing in the Mikdash even when they were not performing the avodah of the Beis Hamikdosh. The Gemora in Kidushin says that this was allowed for the Torah was not given to the heavenly angels and it cannot be expected of them to remove their clothes at the precise moment that they finished the avodah.

The Rama rules that one who stays in a sukkah when it is raining is called a 'hedyot.' The Oneg Yom Tov asks that this should be forbidden completely? One is not allowed to derive any pleasure from the sukkah all seven days. A person sitting in the sukkah while it is raining is not fulfilling any mitzva and therefore is unlawfully deriving benefit from the protection of the sukkah? (If one covers the sukkah with a shlock, it is not a problem for this now becomes a sukkah pesulah.)

He concludes, based on the aforementioned Gemora that it is allowed for the Torah was not given to malachim and therefore one cannot be expected to leave the sukkah the moment it begins to rain and hence it is permitted even after that.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 69 - Careful as he Sleeps

The Sages created an injunction that one should not lie down on clothing that has shatnez in it for perhaps some of the threads will wrap around his skin. According to this, the Gemora questions the permissibility of the kohanim resting on their clothing (according to the opinion that there was shatnez in the belt).

The Maharatz Chayus brings a proof to the opinion of the Maharsha who holds that the concept of אין שבות במקדש - "there are no injunctions in the Mikdash" only applies by laws pertaining to Shabbos, however other halachos would be applicable even in the Mikdash. However, he rebuts this proof by explaining the reason behind the concept of אין שבות במקדש. This is because the kohanim are meticulous and extremely careful and therefore there is no justifiable cause for the injunction. However, here we are concerned of what might happen when the kohanim are asleep and therefore the logic does not apply.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 69 - Gidlo, Gidel

The Gemara states מאי גדול א"ר יוסף אמר רב שגדלו בשם המפורש, רב גידל אמר וכו The Mahretz Chiyas writes elsehwere (I believe in Bav Metzia or Taanis) that many times the Gemara attributes a statement to an amora because the name of the amora is similar to the statement. This Gemara is proof to this concept as the name גידל is similar to the word גידלו. Otehr proofs to this is a medrash quoted by Ramban in Parashas Ki Sitzei regarding having רחמנות on animals and the name of the one making the statement is רבי רחמאי. Another proof is in Gemara Eiruvin 53a מאי מכפלה שכפולה בזוגות ממרא קרית ארבע אמר רבי יצחק קרית הארבע זוגות אדם וחוה אברהם ושרה יצחק ורבקה יעקב Another Gemara similar to this is in Megillah 6a ואמר רבי יצחק מאי דכתיב יוחן רשע בל למד צדק אמר יצחק לפני הקדוש ברוך הוא רבונו של עולם. Please submit others if you know any.

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Yoma 059: The relevance of discussing the Second Beis ha'Mikdash

Michael Post asked:

There's a long buildup to the question, but here it goes.

In the first Beis HaMikdash, there was a wall separating the Kodesh
from the Kodesh HaKadashim, with a curtain in the middle. In the
second Beis HaMikdash, there was no wall and either 1 or 2 curtains.
According to Yechekel's accounting of the third Beis Mikdash, the
entrance to the Kodesh HaKadashim will be 6 amos by 7 amos, which
sounds again like the case of a wall with a paroches in the middle.

When describing the blood applications for the Incense Altar, the
Gemara discusses at some length the different opinions for what
corner should be started at. This is based on the two opinions for
whether there was 1 curtain or 2, since one opinion had the Kohen
Gadol emerging from the North, and the other from the South. The
Gemara never discusses the order that was used for the Incense Altar
applications in the first Beis HaMikdash, where the Kohel Gadol
presumably emerged from the center. Given that it seems like the
Third Beis HaMikdash will be more like the first, and the second is
already destroyed, (a) why does the Gemara spend time discussing
issues pertaining to the second temple curtains, which will never
again be relevant, and (b) why does the Gemara NOT discuss how this
procedure was done in the first Temple, which is more likely to have
relevance to the third Temple?

There are a number of other places already covered in Yoma where a
similar question could be asked, but I only thought of it here.

Michael Post, University Heights, OH
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The Kollel replies:

Yechezkel 41:3 states that the opening of the Kodesh ha'Kodoshim will
be 6 Amos and the width of the opening 7 Amos. See MALBIM there who
writes that the outer Paroches will open from the south side and the
inner Paroches will open from the north like it was in the 2nd Beis
ha'Mikdash as Tana Kama states in MISHNAH YOMA 51b that there were 2
Parochos.

According to this we can understand why the Gemara discusses the 2nd
Temple curtains because this is how it will be in the 3rd Beis
ha'Mikdash, may it be rebuilt speedily in our days.

With regard in general to the similarity between the 2nd Temple and
Yechezkel's Temple, I sent an answer on 28/02/06 to Rabbi Pesach
Feldman's observation on RASHI YOMA 16b DH VE'HAMOSAR who writes that
the Tanna did not need to specify how much space the tables occupied
because their width is stated explicitly in Yechezkel. As a rule, one
can say that if we do not know that the 2nd Beis ha'Mikdash was
different to Yechezkel's, we can assume they are the same.

See also RAMBAM HILCHOS BEIS HA'BECHIRAH 1:4 that I cited in the
above answer, that the 2nd Beis ha'Mikdash is similar to Yechezkel's,
and see TOSFOS YOM TOV in the OPENING to MASECHES MIDOS that the
purpose of learning the above Maseches (which discusses the 2nd Beis
ha'Mikdash) is so we shall know the measurements of the 3rd Beis
ha'Mikdash, when we shall be Zocheh to receive it.

KOL TUV
D.Bloom

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Friday, August 11, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 66- Lekavod Shabbos

The Gemara states that it is said regarding the he-goat that was sent to Azazel ושלח ביד איש עתי המדברה, he shall send it with a designated man, (איש עתי) to the wilderness. The word עתי comes to include that the Azazel goat is sent out even on Shabbos. This teaches us that if the goat was sick and could not walk, the designated man carries it on its shoulders. Although he will be violating the melacha of carrying, this prohibition is superseded by the obligation to perform the Yom Kippur service. It is interesting that this law is derived from the word עתיh. Shlomo HaMelech writes in Koheles בכל עת יהיו בגדיך לבנים, let your garments always be white. The essence of the Yom Kippur service was to gain atonement for the Jewish People, and the atonement was reflected in the red strip of wool, half of which was tied to a rock and half of which was tied between the two horns of the goat. When the Jewish People were worthy, the strip
would turn white and they knew that they had gained atonement, as it is said אם יהיו חטאיכם כשנים כשלג ילבינו, if your sins will be like crimson, they will become white like snow. The word Shabbos is derived from the word שב, which means to repent, so it follows that the service that was performed to reflect atonement for the Jewish People would be performed on Shabbos also, as one should always ensure that his clothing be white.

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Thursday, August 10, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 65 - Atonement w/o the Azazel Goat

There is an argument in the Gemora in the following case: Thr kohen gadol concluded the applications of blood from the שעיר לה and subsuquently, the goat which was designated לעזעזל died. Rebbe Yehuda holds that it is not necessary to bring another one to send it off and Rebbe Shimon disagrees and holds that if the confession was not yet made on it, he must bring another one. Rashi states that according to both of them, the sending of the goat does not withold the atonement.

The גחלי אש is bewildered as to how this can be. Klal Yisroel's atnement seems to be dependent on the sending of the goat off the cliff? How can it be that we are not obligated to bring another one?

He does give an answer, but I am not certain as to the explanation. However, he does say that even in the above case, the kohen gadol would confess the sins of Klal Yisroel without the goat being there (seems like a big chidush to me).

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 65 - Definition of a Year ....12 Months or 13?

The Gemora in Chulin proves from פרה אדומה and the שעיר המשתלח that we rely on a majority, for otherwise one could question the validity of these korbanos for perhaps they might be a טריפה. Since the majority of animals are not a טרפה, we are not concerned.

Tosfos asks that perhaps it is not because of רוב, rather it is due to a chazakah? An animal which is a טריפה has a חזקה that it will not live? Tosfos HaRosh comments that this chazakah is applicable by these two קרבנות for they are in their second year and the חזקה states that a tereifa cannot live longer than a year. (See there for explanations as to why this חזקה is not considered a חזקה.)

Reb Shimon Arye Yuzuk asks the obvious question. The שעיר המשתלח is only valid if it is within its first year. How does the Tosfos HaRosh equate this korban with a parah adumah which can be in its second year?

He answers based on our Gemora. The Rosh can hold that regarding the age of an animal in relevance to korbanos, a year is calculated by Beis Din, which would include the extra month by a leap year. However, in regards to an animal living longer than a year when it is a טריפה, he would rule that this is dependent on a twelve month year regardless if there is an extra month. (This is an argument between the שכ and the פרי חדש.) A goat which was born last year in the month of Cheshvan and it was a leap year will still be valid for the korban, for we give it the extra month, yet it would be a proof that it is not a tereifa, for it is in its second year in that regard.

As to what the logic is to make such a distinction, I do not know, but the calculation works!!

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Wednesday, August 09, 2006

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 64 - First or Better?

The Gemora states that if one designated an animal for a Korban Pesach and it got lost and he chose another one and subsequently the first one was found, he should use the first animal. However, if the second one is of a superior quality, he should bring that one. Tosfos comments that this is not applicable by the two goats. Here, the mitzva is always to bring the initial one, even if the latter one is a better animal. He says that the Gemora's halacha would only apply 'בגבולין' or on a korban that is brought in the azarah, however the goats which are burned outside of the three camps, this din does not apply.

The Chacham Tzvi explains the Tosfos that even though the fats of the goat are burned on the mizbeach, its meat is burned outside the camps. The one which is the better animal will be redeemed and used as a korban olah, where the entire animal will be brought on the mizbeach. This is more preferable.

He concludes that if one had prepared wax candles for lighting the menorah on Chanukah and then olive oil was brought to him, he should use the oil. The same would be true regarding an esrog. One should always use the nicer one, even if it was not the first and even if he was ready to use the other. The Shvus Yaakov disagrees with this.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 64 - Is Stoning a Shechita too?

Our Gemora states that the 'pushing off the cliff' by the שעיר המשתלח is considered like a שחיטה. The רשש in Pesachim and the Minchas Chinuch ask why do we not say this concept by שור הנסקל as well. Let us say that the stoning of the ox constitutes a שחיטה and one should be prohibited from shechting the son on that day? Reb Chaim Ozer answers that this rule only applies by a mitzva, however by a punishment it does not.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 64 - Chopping its Head as a Shechita

Tosfos discusses if we can equate the concept we have by the שעיר המשתלח to an עגלה ערופה.There is a din if we find a corpse of a man that has been murdered between two cities and we can not verify the killer, we must bring a calf and cut off its head and that serves as an atonement. Do we say there that the cutting of its head constitutes a shechita and therefore it will not be considered a neveila and there would be the איסור of אותו ואת בנו and we would not be allowed to shecht its mother.

The Minchas Chinuch asks on a ruling of the Rambam. The Rambam states that if one is shochet the calf, there would be an issur to shecht the mother. Why doesn't the Rambam teach us a bigger chidush, that if he chops off its head it is deemed to be a shechita and there would be that prohibition?

Rav Rudderman in his Sefer Avodas Levi answers that this concept that something can be considered a shechita (even though it isn't) can only be by something that is in the regular category of kodoshim where we find the concept of shechita. This would be applicable to the שעיר המשתלח. However, the עגלה ערופה is in a category of kodoshim all by itself and there we do not find shechita, so the chopping off of its head cannot be considered a shechita. He adds that this is true by the melikah of a kodoshim bird as well.

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Tuesday, August 08, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 63 - Pushing off the Cliff is like Slaughtering it

The Gemora brings cases by the שעיר that it will be פסול because it is considered a מחוסר זמן. One of the cases is where we shechted the mother because someone was sick and now we cannot bring the שעיר because there is an איסור to shecht a mother and its son on the same day. The Gemora asks that we are not shechting the שעיר, rather we are pushing it off a cliff and that should not be included in the prohibition. The gemora answers that דחייתו לצוק זו היא שחיטתו - pushing it off constitutes a שחיטה.

The Sfas Emes comments that it is only considered a שחיטה in regards to not being deemed a נבילה and the limbs can be permitted to derive pleasure from, however it cannot be eaten because it is not regarded as a זביחה and the Torah says וזבחת ואכלת.

The אתוון דאורייתא concurs, yet he says that he doesn't quite understand the logic how it can be considered a שחיטה for some things and not others.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 63 - Goral - Heaven Sent

The raffle is the method used to determine which will be the goat for the korban and which will be sent off the cliff. The Gemora in Sanhedrin states the significance of a 'goral' when Yehoshua rebuked Achan and told him that Eretz Yisroel will be divided utilyzing a 'gorel.' It is written in the name of the Gaonim that a 'gorel' is heaven-sent. The Chavos Yoir writes that when a gorel is done properly, it can be considered hashgochas Hashem. The Ran writes that a gorel can also be called a פייס, for it resolves potential fighting among the kohanim. This is why it is found at times that mourners should use a gorel when there is an issue as to who should daven for the amud. Knowing that when done correctly, it is being resolved with hashgocha can certainly be beneficial to all the parties involved.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 62 - No Two Snowflakes....

It is learned in the Mishna that both goats should have the same appearance.

Ritva says that even though it is impossible for two animals to be precisely the same, like it is stated in Yerushalmi that even two grains of wheat will not be exactly alike, nevertheless, they should try for them to be as similar as possible. Tosfos Yeshonim says that two people cannot appear the same as the Gemora in Sanhedrin states, however animals could be similar. Rashi in Sukkah says that even apples on a tree cannot be the same as another.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 62 - Substitute or Original?

The Gemora states that if one designated an animal for a Korban Pesach and it got lost and he chose another one and subsequently the first one was found, he should use the first animal. However, if the second one is of a superior quality, he should bring that one. שערים מצויינים בהלכה proposes according to this a new halacha. If one was given the privilege to serve as the chazan on the Yomim Noraim or to blow the shofar and he fell sick, so they chose a substitute, and then on Yom Tov became better, it should be up to the congregation as to which one is considered the 'muvchar.' (Perhaps, he says, it should be decided through a lottery.)

The Yerushalmi also learns that if there are two animals and one is a fattier animal, however the other looks better, the fattier animal should be chosen.

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Monday, August 07, 2006

Daf Yomi - Yoma 62 - Looks, Size and Value (mistakenly posted for daf 61)

The Mishna states a halacha that the two goats should be similar in appearance, height and value. The Sfas Emes asks that isn't it obvious if the animals look the same and are the same size, that the value will be equivalant? He answers that there is a concept that the 'third calf' born from a cow is a superior quality than the others, even though they look precisely the same. The Reshash seems to explain like this according to a Yerushalmi.

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PLEASE SCROLL DOWN FOR DAF 61

Please scroll down as we have two questions and three posts on today's daf - yoma 61 - enjoy! And if you didn't have time on Sunday to check out Daf 60, you can do that as well.

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Sunday, August 06, 2006

SECOND QUESTION

רבי חנינא stated that if he did the ketores before the shechita of the par, he must do the ketores over again. I was wondering as to when would the kohen gadol enter the Kodesh Hakodoshim in order to remove the first kaf and machta that he placed there? Does he do that when he realizes that he must do the ketores again? Perhaps, he goes in with a different kaf and machta and on his way out, he removes the first set? Is there enough room between the poles of the Aron to have the first kaf and machta with the ketores and now have a second?

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QUESTION

In the first Beis HaMikdash, there was a wall separating the Kodesh from the Kodesh HaKadashim, with a curtain in the middle. In the second Beis HaMikdash, there was no wall and either 1 or 2 curtains. According to Yechekel’s accounting of the third Beis Mikdash, the entrance to the Kodesh HaKadashim will be 6 amos by 7 amos, which sounds again like the case of a wall with a paroches in the middle.

When describing the blood applications for the Incense Altar, the Gemara discusses at some length the different opinions for what corner should be started at. This is based on the two opinions for whether there was 1 curtain or 2, since one opinion had the Kohen Gadol emerging from the North, and the other from the South. The Gemara never discusses the order that was used for the Incense Altar applications in the first Beis HaMikdash, where the Kohel Gadol presumably emerged from the center. Given that it seems like the Third Beis HaMikdash will be more like the first, and the second is already destroyed, (a) why does the Gemara spend time discussing issues pertaining to the second temple curtains, which will never again be relevant, and (b) why does the Gemara NOT discuss how this procedure was done in the first Temple, which is more likely to have relevance to the third Temple?

There are a number of other places already covered in Yoma where a similar question could be asked, but I only thought of it here.

Michael Post

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 61 - Different Animals

The Gemora states that it is necessary to have 43 total sprinklings from the goat and the bull in total, however they do not all have to be from the same animal. If the blood spilled after the avodah in the Kodesh Kodoshim, that does not have to be repeated. He can start from the sprinklings in the Heichal (on the peroches). The Brisker Rov proves from here that the 43 total הזאות which are mandated are not to permit the korbonos to be brought (for if so, it would be required to have from the same animal), rather it is an obligation for the day and could be fulfilled through different animals. The Chazon Ish states that this halacha is only true by the korbanos of Yom Kippur. However, by other korbanos, such as a פר העלם דבר or any korban which mandates sprinklings in two places (the peroches and the mizbeach), it must be done from the same animal.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 61 - ולא כלום Again

The Gemora states that if the kohen gadol slaughtered the goat before he sprinkled from the blood of the bull, לא עשה ולא כלום - it is not valid and he must bring another goat. We learned yesterday that ולא כלום means that he did not commit an aveira either (besides not fulfilling a mitzva). Isn't shechting the goat on Yom Kippur with no positive result considered a desecration of Yom Kippur?

The Steipler Gaon explains by the ketores that even if it was burned for no reason, it is not a violation of Yom Kippur for he ruined the ketores and it is deemed to be מקלקל,so too says the שערים מצויינים בהלכה here, we can say that shechting the goat does not create any benefit, for there is a prohibition to have pleasure from it and therefore it would not be מלאכת מחשבת and hence he would be פטור.

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Daf Yomi - Tefillah for a Swift Victory

The Baal HaTurim on the passuk "U'malei chofnov" says that there is another place in Tanach where there is a similar usage of this word. In Shmuel it states "U'malei hachevel l'hachayos." This, he states, teaches us that in the merit of the service on Yom Kippur, Klal Yisroel will be zoche to be victorious in war.

In the Sefer Imrei Shammai, he explains a Gemora in Sotah according to this. Yochanan kohen gadol once heard a heavenly voice (bas kol) emanating from the Kodesh Kodoshim proclaiming victory in Antuchya. Rashi explains that there were some young kohanim who went to fight the Greeks before Yom Kippur and were still fighting on Yom Kippur. The message that he heard was in the merit of the avodah on Yom Kippur, they were victorious.

Let us be mispallel that in the z'chus of learning and delving into the Yom Kippur avodah, we too will be zoche to a speedy victory.

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Daf Yomi - Yoma 60 - לא עשה ולא כלום and sometimes it states לא עשה כלום

There are several times in shas that it states לא עשה ולא כלום. The רמע מפאנו explains this statement as follows: לא עשה means that he did not fulfill the mitzva and ולא כלום means that he did not do an aveira either. The Mishna states that if the kohen gadol performed one avodah before the other - לא עשה כלום. This is referring to the sprinkling of the דם השעיר in the Kodesh Hakodoshim before the sprinkling from the פר. In this instance, besides not fulfilling the mitzva, there is an aveira as well, for he entered the Kodesh Hakodoshim unnecessarily and is considered a ביאה שלא לצורך. The Gemora on עמוד ב discusses a case where he performed the חפינת הקטרת prior to the slaughtering of the פר and here the Gemora says לא עשה ולא כלום. This is understood because there is no aveira being committed for the חפינה is done outside. There is no mitzva or aveira. (שערים מצויינים בהלכה)

Did you come across any instance of either one of those expressions recently? Tell us about it and lets see if the yesod fits. Thanks

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